tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-483776065886139843.post8220340547235859171..comments2008-05-06T20:09:43.102-04:00Comments on We are the Mice: Heinlen's Wet Dream, Your Worst Nightmare.Rinskehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07139066536417854991noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-483776065886139843.post-4975179720321316192008-02-01T20:33:00.000-05:002008-02-01T20:33:00.000-05:00Yes and no. Some of the Russians were quite revol...Yes and no. Some of the Russians were quite revolutionary. Anarchists took over most of Ukraine before the Communists betrayed them and attacked them during a typhoid epidemic. However many of the revolutionary groups in Russia were top down organizations. Whatever opening occurred they quickly wiped out with amazing efficiency. Read the pamphlet "The Bolsheviks and Workers' Control" You can find it online at a number of sites. The author documents how the Leninists obliterated worker self management in a matter of months after taking power.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301976971120710895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-483776065886139843.post-71685773725825666802008-01-29T13:55:00.000-05:002008-01-29T13:55:00.000-05:00From your post, you give the impression that timin...From your post, you give the impression that timing is irrelevant to revolutions. While I agree that it is not the only ingredient for a revolution, seizing the right can make or break the movement. <BR/><BR/>With your Russia example, would you say that it wasn't a revolution because it didn't fundamentally change the way they behaved? That they were always trained to act under an authoritarian leader? I must disagree with your claim that the Russian people were not building up for a revolution. The revolutionary movement began in the 1890s well before Lenin assumed power. The 1905 Revolution is enough proof that the people wanted a revolution.<BR/><BR/>A revolution is a process and I agree that it fundamentally changes how people act and behave. But I feel like Heinlein didn't show us the whole process to see how Luna might have changed.Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06084863433290018668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-483776065886139843.post-1558574352938541802008-01-29T10:50:00.000-05:002008-01-29T10:50:00.000-05:00I have to agree with one of the points made in thi...I have to agree with one of the points made in this blog about the fact that, while Heinlein thinks he is writing about a revolution, he really is not. I agree with the sentiment that a revolution is not simply a protest to overthrow a government, I like the analogy of the palace coup, but that it takes planning, dedication, and organization that would take years, not days as in this book. This was one of the issues I had while reading Moon is a Harsh Mistress, for all its fervor about revolution and overthrowing the government and other anarchist tendencies, it fell a little flat in the end.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18357469209064629735noreply@blogger.com